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Its only bad against +1/+1 counters since those are still on the creatures
One of those cards punishes opponents for overextending, and the other punishes them for inviting us to join their playgroup
Embercleave, Red Trample Equipment What do you get if you combine a combat trick with some truly brutal Equipment
However, most of the time these counters spells are worth it in the casual pods I play in, and so this counterspell makes the list
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